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at the news coverage of sarah palin and clinton and the sexism that was there. and it was appalled i know when i had my husband read it to edit it before we send off he said you're making his stuff up. chris matthews did not say that, or the photographer, -- you know, and i think it is far worse than we may be think it is. and these women who we studied really did have some of that stuff. >> i think it's more confident for women to present themselves physically in public because there is no uniform because there's a lack of a legacy. we haven't had a woman that we can say this is what a woman president looks like. so the press tends to cover her appearance before the cover what she stands for and what she plans to do as president. >> there's discrimination based on adherents generally. it's not just something that affects women. there's discrimination against people who are overweight, discrimination against people who are short. but it seems to be particularly intends for women candidates as opposed to men candidates. chris christie, you know, should he have run or should he run will certainl
of the women we have had. i think it is fair to say bill clinton was hillary clinton's best ally and worst detractor when she ran for president and bob dole also had trouble with the surrogate role. the spouse of a woman running for president be described as needing to be a benefactor spouse, someone who is quiet enough in the background, not making any gaffes in the press and yet supportive of the spouse. we haven't seen it yet. >> in defense of those men, the role hasn't been defined. it is not that they are messing up necessarily. they don't know what the role of male political spouse is. >> two women who were very prominent, hillary clinton and elizabeth dole, their spouses are very prominent politicals in their own way. they want to get in and say something in their lives as well. >> interesting discussion. we talked at the outset that you wrote about nine different women and how you selected them. are selected four that i want the three review spend time developing your thoughts on and three have kind of a direct relationship to the institute in kansas and one of them is the most pro
with the clintons, they had a very long history and years of service. how do you manage through a crisis? what happens when that prices outside starts to shake the confidence inside? how do you get control of a narrative that is escaping? all those things are available when you look at 2008 and even in 2012. some people get their lessons from the board room. some people get them from the classroom. some people get them from playing field. some people get them from the battlefield. i get mine from the campaign trail. personal and organizational success. we will talk a little about a few things tonight. i want to do three things tonight. first, i want you to love campaigns the way i do. we'll talk a little about what it's like to be on a campaign. i will tell a little bit of my story for the student trying to navigate your way to success, second. so maybe we can open up some questions around that. finally, question and answer. i hope we can explore a little bit about language and by experience, talk about what people are seeing and take some of these lessons a way to our everyday life. we will s
gorbachev. what do you think about? >> is that because bill clinton has been such a great president they elected in great part, or is there something, i want to say, almost about a man who could getaway with things over and over again? >> she clearly hated being not others just bill clinton's wife. finally, last november 1998, hillary clinton showed the world what she could do in the campaign trail without him. political mastery, every bit as dapper lee ♪ >> for castro, freedom stirs education. and if literacy alone was the yardstick on the kivu would rank as one of the freest nations on earth. the literacy rate, 96%. >> the new speaker was on the floor for a time holding her six-year-old grandson, although i give you directions on how events were to proceed good it seems the ultimate in multitasking. taking care of the children in the country. >> people apology to savior, the messiah, messenger change. >> i would like to say that in some ways, barack obama is the first president since george washington to be taking a step down into the oval office. >> we know that wind can make a
, here's old moderate mitt. where you been, boy? >> reporter: but democrats including bill clinton say romney has been trying to shift back to the center ever since last week's debate. the obama campaign is pointing to what romney said to "the des moines register" on the issue of abortion. >> there's no legislation with regards to abortion that i'm familiar with that would become part of my agenda. >> reporter: contrast that with what he said at a town hall last year. >> what i would like to see happen would be for the supreme court to say, look, we're going to overturn rowe v. wade and return to the states whether they want to have abortion or not. >> severely conservative positions that got him through the gop primary are still there. now he's trying to cover them up. >> reporter: asked about those comments on abortion, a romney campaign spokeswoman released a statement to cnn saying the gop nominee will be a pro-life president. >> jim acosta in ohio traveling with romney. in just a few minutes we'll have some of my interview with mitt romney. also, we had an exclusive interview, we
this what was really just a mismatch against hillary clinton and we are literally on the airplane in mid flight. it was a crazy time. and i remember in those early day i remember the candidate coming through headquarter and he was walking from the back of the room. he was wearing black societies heading my way. i couldn't focus on him. all i could think of it's just a big desk farm with open computer boxes. how are we going if i the space. the walls were white. just like this. the sunlight was coming through the win go. we didn't have campaign sign age. we didn't have anything to put on the walls get. he's walking toward me, and i was thinking, i remember this time because it's really one of the last times i think i talked to him when he didn't have secret service detail. and i'm sure his life changed from that moment. i was thinking, i look back on that and think how much my life changed too. he was tethered to the blackberry that was constantly a stream of things coming a me. it was the -- you know, i'll tell you one more story about the first moment. michelle obama. i met michelle oba
family. ♪ . [applause] >> there was another video made a number of years ago about the clinton white house's internship program. [laughter] you can find it on the internet. by we're not going to play it here. and that tape is a good introduction to our next segment, the funnies. now, i know that, it is chris matthews, it is bob franken, all they can't help but be funny. they're not intentionally funny of course. chris matthews were not employed by msnbc, dnc, i expect he would be a person muttering in a bus stop about racism. eyeing little girls with bad intent. and our presenter for this segment is, i believe an established star in the conservative movement and his star continues to rise. it is a pleasure to have him with us tonight. he is a senior writer at "the weekly standard", the author of two "new york times" best-sellers, cheney, the untold story of america's most powerful and controversial vice president. as well as, the connection, how all died's collaboration with saddam hussein has endangered america. he's currently working on his third book, entitled, endless, how i lear
to my defense. i was called a racist, bill clinton was called a racist. i have seen bill talk to you and others saying donald trump is a good guy. we have a good relationship and he is a good guy. i believe the hate tried he had and maybe doesn't have any more for obama was unbelievable but people are afraid to to take obama on. i don't know what it is. >> this is amazing four years later he saved the democratic convention for obama. he said in 2008 they played the race card with me and they planned it from the beginning. >> he felt that very strongly. >> you feel he did that fto you? >> he did. you mention certain things it's racist. any time you criticize obama whether it's trump or anybody else you get the ratest thing going. it's very unfair, not nice. i enjoyed, i must tell you. i love thinking about running. as you know i was doing incredibly well. people liked what i said whether it was about china or opec ripping us off or whether it was about obama. i wish he were a great president. i am a republican. if he were the greatest president i would be a happy guy. it is not workin
suspect hillary clinton might be thinking about that as well. rvr was in his 70s when he ran for president as well. i think biden is an ambitious guy. he has tried to run for president twice before. it didn't work out, but he is the vice president. paul ryan is a young guy. he is only 42 years old. i suspect even if romney-ryan loses, he has a huge future. he is very popular with the conservative base of the republican party. he is intelligent, smart, good-looking. i suspect he is going to be moving as well, but right now they're not worried about 2016. they're worried about tonight. it will be a lot of fun. we're in it for the long haul. good to see you, as always. >> biden-ryan, they have one thing in common. the support of their wives. we're going to look at the two women who will be on the edge of their seats tonight. [ male announcer ] this is anna, her long day teaching the perfect swing begins with back pain and a choice. take advil, and maybe have to take up to four in a day. or take aleve, which can relieve pain all day with just two pills. good eye. >>> excitement ahead of tonigh
to get out there. help out. >> you know what's kind of interesting -- >> bill clinton. >> he's not that interesting, actually. >> he's fascinating. >> no, he's not. get over it. >> there are people in public life who run for office at a very high level. some have an easier time giving themselves to an audience than others. the president of the united states clearly has an inability to give himself to an audience the way bill clinton does. >> that's one way to put it, donny. >> he is so brilliant in the convention to break it down. beyond that engagement factor that we clearly didn't see with the president, but to me he gave me a road map for a 30-second spot for the rest of the campaign. 5-second clips next to each other. what are you getting? he just -- it is stunning the way -- with a brilliant performance, if you contradict it with so many things over the last six months was a joke. >> bill clinton, it was vegas, come on. >> donny deutsch can tell you something happens to a man when he goes to vegas. >> what happens in vegas stays in vegas. >> he left his feet at one point
that based on what you have learned that secretary clinton, that president obama, that they have been lying through all this? >> well, i don't use those kinds of words. i just know that, i know that you know, people have known from the very beginning that these were terrorist acts and you know, i mean, we knew it. look at the heavy caliber of fire that was taking place. the distance from which it was occurring. i mean this was a very sophisticated attack. and i'll leave it to hearings, i know there are investigations but there is no question that, at the highest levels of our government, this was known in the very beginning and i don't know --. bill: but the explanation you're offering us now is that this was all about an election. you stand by that? >> i don't think there is any question. i mean i look at the susan rice. five days later there is no question, no question, beyond a shadow of a doubt that, that it was known differently that this was not about any film. and i think she candidly, my theory and i don't know, we'll find out, somebody will write a book about this i guess at some p
. you're right, we said in the run up to 2008 that hillary clinton was the most dominant front-runner in politics. that had nothing on what we should be if she decided to run in 2016. >> can i just -- no. i got to tell you. you know, i know she's enormously popular right now but it's because she's not running. i mean, it's not that hard to be that popular. >> but a lot of democrats are saying, wait a minute, she literally got shafted in 2008. this is not fair. this is her turn and thus -- look, this is -- >> they're saying, she's been a loyal soldier for the last eight years, quote-unquote. she has to run. >> i said it in '08. i'll say it in '16. it is not a place for loyalty or for mrs. clinton. it is an indication about one's own ability. i think she's fantastic. i really do. i also think that american voters don't particularly like older women. we won't even buy like makeup from older women. i think even as i was talking about joe biden being 70, hillary clinton as an aging woman becomes less and less appealing to american voters. not in the way that -- just in a way that i
call on this from clinton, illinois. matt is waiting on the independent line. good morning. caller: mitt romney needs to go after the whole libya at incident. he may have made a few missteps regarding coming out with information, but he needs to layoff of that, because it is one thing that he can actually use. i do not know if it will help his foreign policy, because obama can just come back and say -- that is what i did -- but that is something he will really have to focus on if he wants to do those foreign policy speeches. host: thank you for giving us a ring this morning. you want to show you a little bit from that speech released yesterday. mitt romney is expected to say that he knows the president hopes for a safer and freer and more prosperous middle east -- host: we want to bring in now from "the washington post" a reporter to talk about this speech today. thank you for joining us today. caller: thank you for having me on. host: what does mitt romney have to do in this speech? caller: as was mentioned this morning, this will be late in the game for him to be giving a speech
has to eat lunch and be in this room because secretary of state hillary clinton will be coming shortly after that. i hope everyone is hungry. and, please join me in thanking all of our speakers. thank you. [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] >> live picture here on c-span2 as a csis symposium on north africa begins a lunch break. that is the center for strategic and international studies. they're expected back around 2:00 p.m. eastern. secretary of state hillary clinton will speak at that point. we'll be back to show you that live. elsewhere on the c-span networks we have other live events to tell you about. the new america foundation is looking at north africa today, too. their focus will be on the arab spring and the civil war in syria. that gets underway at 2:00 p.m. eastern and that is on c-span3. and the beat goes on the road to the white house. vice president biden, fresh off last night's debate, is in wisconsin today with his wife jill to campaign at the university of wisconsin in lacrosse. we'll have live coverage for you starting at 2:45 p.m. eastern, on our co
? >> it is either going to be hillary clinton or -- everybody thinks she will give it a serious look. nobody knows for sure. terry mcauliffe is out there -- what do you think? who else? >> andrew cuomo? >> i think he will look at that. >> and martin o'malley. >> there will be no private equity person running again. if romney is not elected, who will be the presumptive nominee for the republicans, 2016? presumptive? the >> you will have to fight marco rubio. there is a long bench. we think chris christie will also go for it. the order bobby jindal already working for it. >> let's assume obama is elected, and clinton will step down as secretary of state, so who will be the next secretary of state and treasury if obama is elected? if romney selected, who will be secretaries of state and treasury? >> susan rice. i think her chances were greatly diminished by her performance on the five sunday shows a couple of weeks back, and that will come back to bite her in a confirmation. >> i thought she was relating what she had been told by the intelligence community? >> the increasing information is that that
the world. >> i would like to give a special shoutout to hillary clinton and the united population fund, yesterday in very high level meetings pledged nearly $50 million for a campaign to end child marriage. [applause] >> i'd like now to ask eleanor smeal to join me. i've had the great privilege of working with her for 25 years. she is one of the contemporary women's movements and one of its most recognized leaders. in 1980 she was the first to define and prove the gender gap that it existed and she has been a key force ever since to secure women's rights. please welcome eleanor smeal. [applause]. >> thank you this is quite a year for us. this is also the 25th anniversary for the feminist majority. and kathy never gets introduced in her own right. i want to introduce katherine spillar who has kept us going in so many ways and now is executive editor of "ms.." and that's not in name only, that's in reality. she gets the get. she gets the story. she makes sure that we're always not only relevant but that we're ahead of times and that everything from rape is rape campaign to cracking in an
performance last night for barack obama. >> hillary clinton is running as the tough fighter, and if obama doesn't show democrats he can be a tough fighter against the republican attack machine so called but in fact it is, then, you know, democrats are going to pull back from him. >> subpar performance in the debate by senator obama and a great performance by senator clinton. >> i think they saw john mccain is the tough guy and barack obama is the cerebral guy. >> he seemed to lose control. >> john mccain clearly won this battle on points. >> so this is it every time. i actually thought that he was during the primary a subpar debater. in fact, debate after debate in which he wouldn't throw the punch and this was the big -- >> right. i think part of the issue is romney has been making so many big mistakes and has been so underperforming. a lot of us forgot he can stay say coherent things and can be good at debates and thought that president obama's campaign has been on. >> but this is where the kind of film clips that you have can be very useful because we can have pictures of romney saying
. >> reporter: congressman king is asking secretary of state clinton to designatal sharia as a foreign terrorist organization which gives the u.s. government tools to track, punish and freeze their assets. one theme really dominated at the hearing yesterday into the 9/11 attack at the consulate, and it was that official washington was preoccupied with reducing the number of american security personnel or their footprint in benghazi even after a series of attacks on dip 40 mats there. >> -- diplomats there. >> it's not the hardships u it's not the threats, it's dealing and fighting against the people, programs and personnel who are supposed to be supporting me. and i added it by saying for me the taliban is on the inside of the building. >> reporter: yesterday ambassador kennedy, the most senior state department official to testify before the oversight committee, responded to his subordinate's characterization. >> they're extraordinary professionals. and i was simply surprised to hear language like that used. >> reporter: at the hearing, ambassador kennedy said within a day he personally believed
of "the washington post" this morning. the attack could mark the clinton legacy. clinton was the first of the obama administration officials to condemn the attack and mourn the death of ambassador christopher stevens and three other americans but as the state department has weathered the republican-led criticism of the warning signs before the september 11th attack, clinton has been invisible. clinton will not appear the oversight hearing on the libya attack where they've said they will question the state department security preparations and the administration's account of the attack. the state department plans to the interest in their career with other officials. ahead of the hearing they provided new details about the attack or asserting that there had been no way to predict or prevent the same assault. and as we read in the "the washington times" earlier, the report that the state department according to them took away any claims that this attack was due to the protest about that video to read that is the front page of the "the washington times" this morning. they also in case you a
flopping during the debate. former president bill clinton goes even further. >> so just show up with a sunny face and say, i didn't say all that stuff i said the last two years. >> next, does mitt romney have a multiple personality? plus, what he told an iowa newspaper that's making some people scratch their heads. all energy development comes with some risk, but proven technologies allow natural gas producers to supply affordable, cleaner energy, while protecting our environment. across america, these technologies protect air - by monitoring air quality and reducing emissions... ...protect water - through conservation and self-contained recycling systems... ... and protect land - by reducing our footprint and respecting wildlife. america's natural gas... domestic, abundant, clean energy to power our lives... that's smarter power today. domestic, abundant, clean energy to power our lives... mike rowe here at a ford tell me fiona, who's having a big tire event? your ford dealer. who has 11 major brands to choose from? your ford dealer. who's offering a rebate? your ford dealer. w
. that is inaccurate. hillary clinton, hillary clinton was the one who called assad a reformer. paul ryan was correct when he said that. the main foreign policy point to take away from last night's debate was the fact that vice president biden continues to mislead the american people what happened in benghazi. we saw sworn testimony this week that said the state department officials in benghazi had requested extra security. last night vice president biden said that was not true. they had not heard that. when the first attacks were made, the administration went out and said that it was because of protests, because of a youtube video. then we found out that wasn't true. so today the obama administration has a lot of questions to answer, why they're misleading the american people and who is right in these different circumstances. jon: and then there was this exchange with moderator martha raddatz from abc about taxes. i want to play you a clip of that. >> in terms of style, you know, joe biden is joe biden. he is authentic and he is real and he is straightforward and he --. jon: that was actually, that
clinton, it takes some nerve to attack something that you voted for yourself. now what we need to do -- and this is a clear example. she wants to balance the deficit on the shoulders of our seniors, middle class and our students, while protecting tax breaks for multimillionaires and corporations that ship jobs overseas. >> dr. ruiz, thank you so much. we go to the last question of the night. erica, you have the honors. >> congresswoman, critics have described bolt of you as politicians who will simply vote in lock-step with your political party leadership. can you name some policies that president obama has implemented that you support? and dr. ruiz, when it's your turn, can you name policy points where you disagree with president obama? >> thank you, erica, sure. i support the bills that i passed out of the house and got passed out of the senate and made it to the president's desk and signed into lot. the safety improvement act is one. i support other bills that he has passed that he has supported. it's a lot easier for me to say what i don't support. we haven't talked about energy.
appreciate secretary clinton's efforts to cooperate with this investigation. she stepped in and instructed her people to cooperate and they have. additionally, if i have had conversations directly with the secretary and i believe our service together since 2001 in the u.s. congress plays no small part in her recognition of the role we serve on both sides of the dome. today, however, this hearing has been called for the express purpose of examining security failures that led to the benghazi tragedy. safe-haven within the compound, which some state department officials seemed to think could protect the benghazi compound inhabitants, did not work. in retrospect, it cannot be expected to work. the overall level of security at the compound did not meet the threat or standards under any reasonable assessment for a facility of this kind. today's hearing is the result of concerned citizens with direct knowledge of the events in libya a ultimately reaching this committee. as we look back on what occurred, our challenge is to identify things that clearly went wrong and what the benefit of hindsight
face questions. senator john mccain and obama from 2,000 eight. at 10: 10 p.m. bill clinton and bush and ross me row. and then watch mitt romney in their town hall debate. >> coming up we'll go live to the university of wisconsin la crosse for a campaign stop for joe biden. we'll get to hear his thoughts after last night's debate. we'll join it live. more coverage with mitt romney. he is in a rally in ohio this afternoon. he will be teamed up with paul ryan. that gets under way at 5: 40 eastern. while we wait on that to get under way we look at a briefing. >> good afternoon everyone thanks for being here. before we start, i just thought i'd say if i might in what you could consider a personal privilege setting aside acements of winners and losers. i worked with the vice president for two years and traveled with him around the country and the world. i took extreme pleasure in watching the debate last night because of the way he demonstrated his passion and his wisdom and the joy that he brings to the job of serving the american people as vice president and of working with this preside
clinton style shift toe the center where he tried to triangulate. he has been proud, rather aggressive liberal both the way he governed since the 2010 midterms and in his campaigning. and i think the romney campaign and rnc have an ad out right now calling president obama a liberal. identifying him as such for voters which makes voters jobs a little bit easier. this is opening for romney campaign to continue to make that point and tie his policies with that idealogical label. martha: steve, they will be both out in force in ohio over the course of this week. rob portman will be campaigning with mitt romney as will chris christie. talk to me about the tightening in ohio. >> ohio, it is, isn't too much to say ohio is crucial obviously. if you look at the polls i think there was a sense both in public polling and internal polling for the campaigns that ohio was slipping away from republicans in a state that they need to win. now seems there is some tightening. there was a poll out in michigan last night shows president obama only up three points there. if president obama is only up three
-2008 campaign and biden beat both hillary clinton and barack obama in a number of debates. everybody talks about his gaffes and they forget he is a good debatetor and he has a capacity for empathy for average people. and he can just explain stuff quite well. so i think he will put ryan on the griddle and take the interview with chris wallace and say look, you've got time. you said the math is too complicated. don't give us talk about base lines. tell us how you're going to do this. >> e.j., thanks for being here. i appreciate it. >> good to be with you. >>> up next, the grave international implications of having people in our american congress who hold elaborate conspiracy theories about dinosaur farts. sorry. that's next. seriously. >>> this time every year it's the same good news, bad news, high-low kind of feeling. it's the day we learn there are super smart people in the world winning prizes for their super smartness and most of the time we also learn we are not smart enough to get what they are wivening for. this year it's a french and american physicist who wo
, a top aide to secretary of state hillary clinton, gave a briefing to congressional aides calling it a sophisticated and complex attack. >>> overnight, north korea warning the united states, you are within range of our missiles. this in response to a deal south korea made with america. it allows south korea to nearly triple the range of its missiles. north korea says it's prepared to counter any threat. >>> new developments in the case of that murdered american jet skier. mexican marines arrested this man, salvador martinez, escovedo, alleged drug cartel leader, believed to be responsible for the death of david hartley. he was killed in 2010 while jet skiing with his wife on falcon lake. she says the arrest raises even more questions about his death. >> i don't believe that he pulled the trigger. i believe it's probably he either said yes, go ahead, or he had something to do with the guys who are behind it. >> gretchen: it's believed he killed 50 people with his own hands and ordered hundreds more dead. >>> well, what had paul ryan tearing up? >> for the united states of america.
will restore the vitality begets america working again. >> friday, secretary of state hillary clinton speaks before a conference on the political changes in north africa, including egypt, libya and tunisia. .. knowledge the presence of three ambassadors who have now arrived, ambassador yannis hostra is here, thank you and the ambassador from belgium is here, thank you and i didn't say earlier that he is here the ambassador from the netherlands. okay, thank you all for coming today. we have a very interesting panel to talk about the election and politics and i will introduce them briefly. most of you are very familiar with them and then we will get into questions and have time for questions from those of you who are here. to my immediate left charlie cook who is the founder, editor and publisher of "the cook political report" which is a survival for people who care about politics and the campaigns in the likely outcomes of those campaigns. judy woodruff is senior correspondent for us "pbs newshour" and a senior correspondent at nbc and cnn and covered me in the white house when i was there a
americans. little bit later this afternoon secretary of state hillary clinton will make remarks on politics, economics and security in north africa. we'll have it live for you here on c-span2. [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] finish [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] finish [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] >> and, again, we are live at the center for strategic and international studies here in washington awaiting the start of this discussion on the situation in north africa. little bit later this afternoon secretary of state hillary clinton will make remarks on politics, economics and security in that r
you flat out, do you think president clinton's an honest man? >> yes, i think he's an honest man. >> do you really? even though he lied to jim lehrer's face -- >> who among us has not lied about something? i think you can be an honest and lie about any number of things. ♪ ♪ >> somebody, i don't know -- [inaudible] it's a dumb ass thing he's doing. you know, i've been a dumb ass all my life. >> dan rather! all right. let it, let it waffle, let it waffle. that's only one, only one. we've got three more. our second finalist is arguably the most pretend white house of the lot. -- pretend white house of the lot. a man who oozes arrogance, the kind of grandiose self-importance borne of so many years struggling in the trenches reading sports scores on a teleprompter. yes, bryant gumbel, you have always been a pompous ass. roll the tape. ♪ ♪ >> largely as a result of the policies and priorities of the reagan administration, more people are becoming poor and staying poor in this country than in any time since world war #-r. >> welcome today, a day when the budget picture, frankly,
but romney says the numbers aren't nearly good enough. joining me is former clinton press secretary, dee dee myers and republican strategist, john bravender. john, let me start with you. presumably all republicans are feeling a surge of great excitement following the debate. how much has that been dissipated by what are undeniably very good jobs figures today? >> first of all, i guess i would argue that they are as good as either you're saying or particularly that obama is saying. if you look at the adjusted numbers for july and august, actually the new numbers aren't any better than that. if you look, the only reason that unemployment is going down is they're taking more and more people who have basically given up or are underemployed out of the equation and so what has happened is we're now starting to accept and get excitement over mediocrity. but i will say this. the good news for the president is we're discussing the job numbers today and whether they're good, bad or whatever rather than his debate performance. i think that's actually good for obama. >> there are too many middle class f
it was in the clinton years, that makes sense. now some republicans are saying yeah, we may have to do that. that's the way to get a deal done. instead of the kind of gridlock we've had so far. >> now, one of the other issues is the fiscal cliff and the gang of eight meeting at mount vernon today. i know you're not one of the eight, you're very plugged in, obviously, to what they're doing. do you think they're going to be able to reach an agreement after the election and avoid this fiscal cliff? >> we have lots of people who will work real hard on this, senator baucus on the finance committee done a lot of work on tax reform and other members are, but our best hope to get something done is the group of eight, all people well intentioned. and if they can overcome the deadlock we've had on revenues so far, i think we can get a deal. the suggestion i made today is aimed at them as well as everybody else, saying hey, if we want to get a real deal, the way to do it on revenues is take all -- certainly close all those loop holes that don't belong, but instead of using that money to reduce taxes on the
watched the debates in the 2007-2008 campaign and biden beat both hillary clinton and barack obama in a number of debates. everybody talks about his gaffes and they forget he is a good debatetor and he has a capacity for empathy for average people. and he can just explain stuff quite well. so i think he will put ryan on the griddle and take the interview with chris wallace and say look, you've got time. you said the math is too complicated. don't give us talk about base lines. tell us how you're going to do this. >> e.j., thanks for being here. i appreciate it. >> good to be with you. >>> up next, the grave international implications of having people in our american congress who hold elaborate conspiracy theories about dinosaur farts. sorry. that's next. seriously. tridion safety cell which can withstand over three and a half tons. small in size. big on safety. which can withstand over three and a half tons. if we want to improve our schools... ...what should we invest in? maybe new buildings? what about updated equipment? they can help, but recent research shows... ...nothing tran
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